If you are still coming down from the excessive that was Cobra Kai Season 3, then we have now a deal with for you!
We had an opportunity to chat with Vanessa Rubio, who performs Carmen on the Netflix collection. Carmen was entrance and heart, a driving power behind Johnny’s change of coronary heart relating to his former adversary, Daniel Larusso.
Find out how Vanessa thinks Carmen held it collectively throughout Miguel’s restoration, how her relationship with Johnny may change Miguel’s relationship with each, and how one can hold Vanessa in your view whereas we await Cobra Kai Season 4.
What is it like being a part of a cult phenomenon, just like the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise?
It’s superb. It’s actually, actually superb. Sometimes it is like that scenario the place you might have to be like, is that this actually occurring? But it has been fantastic. The followers have been actually beautiful, and the emotions behind the show, the individuals who actually care about it, actually are genuine in these emotions, so it has been fantastic.
Were you a fan of the Karate Kid motion pictures earlier than you grew to become concerned?
I used to be, in fact. I grew up within the 80s. I used to be the youngest of three, so I used to be fairly younger when the films got here out. But due to my older siblings, significantly my older brother, who was proper round the precise age for the Karate Kid, proper at that early-teen age, he was the one who was principally watching it.
I simply wished to be cool and sustain with the occasions. I watched them as nicely, and so they’re undoubtedly part of how I grew up.
Does he assume you are fairly cool now?
Yeah, I might hope so. [laughs]
Carmen has seen Johnny at arguably his worst greater than his finest, however she’s nonetheless drawn to him and appears to actually learn him nicely. Where does that connection stem from?
Yes, proper. I believe it is simply actually written into the story. As an actor, I’ve to do justice to the writing and discover the reality behind that. I believe she’s deeply empathetic as a human, so she feels that.
But she additionally seems like along with her previous expertise with being betrayed and duped by Miguel’s father and having to go on the run and survive and actually name on her power of survival and wits to go to a brand new nation along with her household and discover footing.
I believe she is aware of how to battle too. She is aware of the ups and downs of that, the lows that you just go. I believe she’s in a position to emphasize with that particularly with him.
What do you assume made her put her coronary heart on the market and belief Johnny with it?
I believe a mixture of, I believe it surprises her as nicely. She’s a personality, I believe, who goes backwards and forwards between her robust emotions. She has very robust emotions, however then she does not need to show it.
She’s like, oh no, she does not need to be weak as a result of she’s additionally on this combating to survive stage, you realize? But I believe there inevitably comes a time if you go from surviving to thriving. I believe we see her rising into that.
Then additionally, her son is such a ravishing forward-moving power in our life who places her on courting websites and stuff. She’s getting her groove. I believe the entire thing with Johnny is that he stepped in to actually be a father determine for her son unexpectedly and tenaciously; he retains on.
He’s at all times there, even perhaps when she does not need him to be. She has to give in to that, too, to be weak sufficient to settle for that assist and permit these emotions to develop.
Now that she and Johnny have these emotions, how do you assume it’ll have an effect on Carmen’s relationship with Miguel after which Miguel’s relationship with Johnny?
Oh my gosh.
The relationships are fairly strong as they’re, and this new dynamic actually modified issues.
Yeah, undoubtedly. I might solely hope that he does not take it too unhealthy.
It looks as if he is a fairly level-headed child who needs to see his mother completely satisfied, but additionally with this sensei determine who he is given all of his belief to too. I can solely hope that he does not really feel betrayed and might come to see it as a great factor for each of them.
From your perspective, are you curious about seeing Carmen get extra into the fray with the karate-related storylines, or do you want taking part in on the outskirts and balancing the combating and the rivalries with motherhood and different issues?
I actually belief the place the writers take this character, and yeah, if I sense one thing off or one thing, I might say so.
But when it comes to the karate stuff, I do not know, man; I might welcome it in the event that they introduced it. I believe seeing Carmen in a bodily highly effective position can be superior, however then I additionally assume that her supporting Johnny and her son has actually been highly effective.
Her phrases prolong far past, I believe, than even her character realizes. She’s the one particular person Johnny actually listens to, so she has loads of energy there too.
I’m questioning, how tough was it going by means of Miguel’s harm and paralysis storyline? How do you assume that Carmen stayed so robust all through?
Well, I believe that is outdoors of this story that I actually took fairly to coronary heart. I did not need to gloss over it as a result of I believe that is a part of the human expertise.
We love deeply, and we grieve deeply, and we undergo difficulties in a deep manner as a result of we love a lot. I did not need to draw back from that. I simply wished to be true to that and show that there are penalties to this stuff, proper?
There are penalties to violence and senselessness that actually, I believe, might unite us perhaps to be higher in direction of each other. I believe for her character, she simply had to take it one step at a time and deal with the enterprise at hand, particularly to start with of season three.
Then on the finish of season three, she has extra potential to discover her emotions, and she or he has a bit extra grounding, I believe.
You talked about how Carmen had to uproot every part to get out of the way in which of Miguel’s father. Now that she’s not hiding from something anymore, is there an opportunity that his father might show up in season 4? What are your ideas on that?
Oh, goodness. I do not know. I actually do not. But if he did, we simply have to see, take it from there, and see what occurs.
What’s your all-time favourite scene that you just filmed on the show so forth?
Oh, man. What is my favourite scene? I believe most likely the scene on the sofa in season three, speaking to Johnny’s character when Carmen tells him to battle.
That scene simply got here collectively actually in a pleasant manner. I believe it is simply well-written and simply the end result was very nice in the way it performed with the higher story.
People have been like, “Oh, is little Mr. Miyagi in there?” I’m like, “Yeah, there may be.” Wow. I’m additionally blown away by that.
Right. With the season finale, all people’s getting nearer to one another, and on the identical web page, those that we as soon as thought have been by no means going to be on the identical web page.
Do you assume that Carmen and Amanda can formally kind a help group for Daniel and Johnny’s infantile conduct?
I might solely hope so. Yeah. Jeez, it is like any person wants to be level-headed right here. Yeah, simply the chemistry between Daniel’s character and Johnny’s character, it is virtually like reaching this sibling degree.
It’s hilarious. I like watching it, however yeah, I hope that Carmen and Amanda get nearer and work collectively extra simply sooner or later for positive.
I believe a few of my favourite scenes this season have been at any time when the 4 of them wound up in the identical location. Like at that restaurant the place they have been sitting collectively with out actually sitting collectively. The entire dynamic between the 4 characters is so enjoyable.
So enjoyable as a result of it’s totally adult-like too, the place you count on like, “Oh, now we’re adults.” But no, they are not over that rivalry, after which you might have to take care of that awkwardness. Yeah. That scene was loads of enjoyable, to each movie and watch.
Of course, the transfer to Netflix actually helped. People who hadn’t seen it earlier than, for no matter motive, actually jumped on the bandwagon, and it is taken on a lifetime of its personal.
It was one factor with the primary two seasons, however now that the third season has hit, it is on a completely totally different degree. What are your ideas on the longer term, and what actually excites you about this franchise’s potential?
Yeah, it has been actually beautiful seeing its transformation and progress. Really it has as a result of it takes on a brand new degree every season, and it is actually a testomony, I believe, to the entire cast and crew.
We find it irresistible simply as a lot because the viewers does, and the creators, they’re the largest followers. Josh, Jon, and Hayden; they’re like mega followers.
They know the entire little theories on-line. They know the entire backstories, the entire motion pictures. I believe they’re actually a giant motive why it has been so profitable as a result of they ship it as followers who care about it a lot would.
They do not destroy it. They have enjoyable with it, and I believe they’ve given it a very new life in a very nice manner.
If you had to select between Miyagi-Do or Cobra Kai, which one would you select?
You know what? Miyagi-Do for positive. Me Vanessa, Miyagi-Do all the way in which. Cobra Kai, sadly, has the higher logos and the higher look. They look a lot cooler, however you bought to look under the floor.
They are so slick.
They’re actually slick. But I’m the kind of particular person that appears under the floor. I do know Miyagi-Do is the place I’m at. [chuckles]
Has being part of the collection piqued your curiosity in martial arts in any respect? Have you tried it?
Oh, completely. I took it with my siblings as a younger child, so way back that I am unable to actually take into account myself like, “Oh, I’m a martial artist.” I actually cannot say that I do.
I believe it builds good coordination and stability in me, and I actually used to love the formation dances I used to do. Yeah, it is piqued one other curiosity in me for positive.
Maybe we might count on to see you on the market within the yard, perhaps when all people’s getting their groove on.
Yeah. Totally, completely. That’s the way in which to Johnny’s coronary heart, too, so win-win.
Win-win, certainly. You’ve at all times been comparatively busy. You have loads of tasks beneath your belt.
Being on this and having this renewed curiosity, has it opened any doorways, and what else do you might have occurring proper now?
For positive. I did a collection with Dolly Parton on Netflix for her anthology collection. I’m within the episode the place it is a Western. It’s known as JJ Sneed, based mostly on her track known as JJ Sneed, and that was superb.
Just Dolly Parton herself is like, I by no means, by no means dreamed I might ever get to meet Dolly Parton, not to mention work on one in all her productions. That was a dream come true.
Bonding, which can also be on Netflix. Season two is popping out, and I’ve bought a number of episodes in that. It comes out on January twenty seventh.
That was additionally very nice and candy and an awesome tighter, smaller manufacturing to work on. That undoubtedly had loads of coronary heart and witty script concerned. Also, we filmed it in New York proper earlier than lockdown, like January 2020.
I do know, I do know. I used to be like, “Oh my God.” We did not notice how fortunate we had it, you realize?
The earlier than and after.
Yeah. I’m actually trying ahead to seeing how that turned out.
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