GG: Jefferson additionally has pointed views on Superman. Did you get pushback?
JR: No, as a result of it isn’t about Superman being a foul man. We go to Superman and different heroes by means of the lens of these characters. Even although Superman is an immigrant and really an alien, his passport is stamped as a result of of the means he seems to be and since of the means he presents himself.
All of these characters should reconcile how they view different individuals and whether or not they’re being honest. If I made Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman dangerous individuals, I’m positive we might have had pushback. But it was all honest sport if it got here from a perspective that felt actual and grounded.
GG: How did the mission initially come collectively?
JR: I used to be very nervous after I pitched it. It was a form of conceitedness, perhaps, to come back again and say, I need to have a look at your whole historical past and shift the lens somewhat and have some actual speak about some of these characters. To their credit score, DC noticed the worth. This was lengthy earlier than the present counting on race and illustration.
When you are coping with tales about race, otherization, individuals exterior of the prevailing tradition, sadly, it may be related virtually any time it comes out.
GG: Let’s speak about your upcoming Batman comedian and your tease that it will extremely seemingly be a nonwhite Batman.
JR: Let me verify that it’s positively a Black particular person below the cowl. It was an off-the-cuff line, meant to be humorous. Comic guide followers are the finest followers. They will undergo every part and test it and recheck it. It was the quip heard round the world. Definitely, definitely, the subsequent Batman is a Black Batperson.
GG: I like that you simply’re saying “particular person” and never “man.”
JR: I’ve to have what enjoyable I can. There’s no purpose in the trendy period to assume that the one that is representing Batman is a person. But whoever it’s, it’s an attention-grabbing alternative to populate the world round this new Batman. We’ll have some attention-grabbing characters coming in and rather a lot of illustration. It was actually vital to be sure that this Gotham City was nicely represented.