Author Kate Winkler Dawson is teaming up with cold-case investigator Paul Holes and Exactly Right Media to convey true-crime followers an in-depth take a look at a few of historical past’s most perplexing circumstances.
In Dawson’s newest podcast endeavor “Buried Bones,” she sits down with Holes to assist untangle historic true-crime circumstances. The first episode, titled “The Valet Did It?” was launched on September 14 and focuses on the mysterious demise of William Marsh Rice, a rich businessman from Texas.
Heavy had an opportunity to speak with Dawson about “Buried Bones” and her collaboration with Holes.
Here’s what it’s worthwhile to know:
Kate Talks New Podcast ‘Buried Bones’
Heavy: What impressed you to start out the podcast “Buried Bones?”
Kate: Paul [Holes] had been on my show “Wicked Words.” We have been engaged on a case collectively from 1925 that he had simply unusually been requested to seek the advice of on. We simply had a very good dialog. I’ve by no means needed a co-host earlier than however Paul is so participating. He and I believe very equally and I simply thought it was [going to] be a very good match, so once I was in search of a co-host, I assumed he could be the apparent selection for me and I knew we had plenty of nice chemistry on the show.
Heavy: How does “Buried Bones” differ out of your different true-crime initiatives?
Kate: I write true-crime books however all of them are form of in the identical vein the place we’re taking old circumstances that many occasions folks have by no means heard of and re-examining them from the viewpoint of investigators and journalists who’re working within the twenty first century. [All] my podcasts do this. The first one is “Tenfold More Wicked,” [which is] a documentary-style sequence the place we [tackle] one crime over six episodes. I do this by myself. “Wicked Words” [focuses] on my interviews with journalists about their finest true crime tales. “Buried Bones” is totally different as a result of we have now one crime per episode. I’m presenting the case to Paul as if he have been an investigator that I work with as a journalist. It’s similar to getting a cup of espresso with him and saying, ‘This is the case. What do you assume?’ Which is totally different from the opposite reveals. The different reveals are simply me interviewing folks. With Paul, we have now plenty of give and take. I give him the knowledge after which he provides me his opinion and we form of unravel issues collectively.
Heavy: Where do you assume your curiosity in true-crime tales stems from? Was there a selected case that piqued your curiosity?
Kate: I used to be a tv information producer for a really very long time. More than twenty years. So I used to be assigned to all types of various circumstances. One was the disappearance of Chandra Levy, who was an intern for Gary Condit on Capitol Hill. I spent months on that case. So I’ve been drawn into crime circumstances all through my profession as a journalist. But additionally, my mom was a medical psychologist and [a] large fan of [true] crime and my father was a felony legislation professor, so I believe between the 2 of them, I had plenty of depth. Especially with my father. We would discuss forensics on a regular basis as a result of he began The Innocence Project on the University of Texas, so we talked about unhealthy science and good science. So all of it sort of got here collectively. Really it comes all the way down to I like a superb story. I like seeing characters change over time. I like some drama. I like humanity and listening to about how folks cope with totally different conditions.
Kate Chats About Episode 1 of “Buried Bones”
Heavy: How did you come throughout this story? What piqued your curiosity on this story?
Kate: That is basically an attention-grabbing query. Before I grew to become an creator, I used to be a video editor. I used to be educating a category, and [a] scholar got here as much as me afterward and stated, ‘I obtained this movie. It’s a story movie. We must recut it…I want you to assist me re-edit it.’ And it was referred to as “The Trust,” and it was about William Marsh Rice and what occurred [to him]. The movie has a really totally different take than what Paul and I believe may need occurred however that piqued my curiosity. I really thought of that story for “Tenfold More Wicked.”
Heavy:Episode 1 focuses on a case from 1900. What distinctive challenges does finding out an older case current?
Kate:The problem for me [with] these actually old circumstances that I concentrate on is at all times [finding] sources. In the 1600s, autopsies weren’t accomplished by folks with plenty of medical information. So Paul is just not [always] provided the very best forensic knowledge from me that I want I may provide him. We’re lacking a few of that. But that’s [the challenge]. You’re restricted together with your sources [when researching old cases].
Heavy: This episode focuses on a really rich man. Can you communicate to the function wealth or class has in how true-crime tales are investigated and reported on? Do you assume this story would have garnered the identical consideration if the sufferer was not rich?
Kate:William Marsh Rice was an icon in Texas and in New York with the quantity of wealth he had and his intention to start out Rice University. When he died, and it regarded suspicious, I believe you see a mixture of a very good dramatic story that the newspapers picked up and sheer panic from the individuals who have been supposed to construct this college on his behalf. And they’re now watching an lawyer attempt to attract cash from this institute that was meant to teach lots of people in Texas.
I believe, on the whole, true-crime actually does ignore folks which can be on the poverty line or beneath. Certainly, folks which can be underrepresented. People of coloration. Women. We work actually arduous at “Buried Bones” to attempt to shine a light-weight on these sorts of tales. I do assume William Marsh Rice and his standing in society completely helped with media protection and police consideration for positive.
Heavy:In normal, what can listeners count on from “Buried Bones?”
Kate: It’s a dialog. It is just not me interviewing Paul Holes. He’s been interviewed by folks. Surprisingly, we don’t speak in regards to the Golden State Killer fairly often in any respect. We actually break down these circumstances. It is me sitting down with an investigator pal of mine and saying, ‘I’m going to inform you this story.’ It’s enjoyable. It’s actually enjoyable.
You can hearken to “Buried Bones” HERE.
